The Shack, An Observation from a Non-Christian, Dangerous Implications for Believers

The Shack, an observation from a non-christian and dangers for believers:

The Shack is a movie, released March 2, 2017, after a book, The Shack, was published July 2007, just two years before the Great Awakening among believers began. This morning, while on Facebook, I read a post about a christian woman who wanted to encourage people to go see the movie, The Shack, and gave an extensive justification as to why she believed people should be open to seeing the movie. She was aware that many people would refuse to see the movie, and much of that was based upon the book. Following the post, several christians were arguing over the book and movie called The Shack, with several for seeing The Shack and several against seeing the Shack, and calling both the movie and each other heretical and implying the lack of salvation each were manifesting.
After reading the arguing back and forth of the christian commenters over The Shack, with it’s truthfulness or deceptiveness, and fighting over who among the commenters were even saved, and the lack of love and kindness between their comments over The Shack, and the spear-throwing, a fresh response came from a non-christian, spurned on by all the fighting he had seen among the christians over The Shack. And so, he had read the book, and brought a fresh response.
I thought I would share his response, but I did change the pagan names. Obviously the author of the book and the screenplay included the pagan names with which most people are familiar.
I am not saying that all of this nonchristians observations are true.
What I do want to point out is that this is what an agnostic type person found to resonate in the book with his life experience and understanding, so far.
And certainly, I think there can be lessons that can be taken as to how most people, perhaps, are impacted with issues of the truth or man’s manipulation about the truth of YHWH.
Further, the book is DEFINITELY not written from a restoration perspective.
Most of what I have read out of his list I took no issue with until I got to the end. And then, I did some further research. I now think there’s plenty to be concerned about over this book.
You will see my comments in brackets: [ ]. Below this image of a portion of the book jacket of The Shack, you will find the comment of this non-believer, as he first tells christians what is wrong with their message to nonchristians, and then he gives a list of 57 things he found within this book that he wanted to share, and finally, his response to reading the book. The fact that he read the book, The Shack, seems to indicate that he is open to knowing the truth.
“non-christian view…
“My name is Aram and I just finished reading The Shack. I then went online and happened across a bunch of people arguing about it, for what looks like a few years now. People are calling this a heresy, a dangerous book, and warning people not to read it.
“I normally never comment on these things, but being an unbeliever
“– yes that’s right, I am not a Christian –
“I thought it might be useful for some of these theology spouting authorities to take a moment and look at what I, not a churchgoer in any way, have gleaned from this little book.
“And then ask yourself – because I really don’t know much about the Bible – is anything I learned leading me in the wrong direction?
“Perhaps all the way to this burning lake of fire so many Christians love trying to scare non-Christians with?
“If this is the case, then I guess you’re right, and based on what you believe people shouldn’t read this book.
“For me, I don’t believe fear and rules to be the answer, I never have.
“This has been the main reason for my avoidance of the church.
“However, when you preach love and forgiveness, through whatever means conveys it the best, whether fiction or otherwise, well now, my heart begins to open a tad.” [There’s a problem here, spiritually and philosophically, and in every other way…. why do you need forgiveness and love if there are no rules? Doesn’t there even have to be a sense of love is the right way to go in order for there to be an expectation that there should be love?]
“It makes me actually want to pick up a Bible perhaps and maybe read a little further.
“Teach love my believer friends, because people like me, we don’t respond well to fear tactics.
“And we definitely don’t get turned on by arrogant church leaders who think they have it all figured out.
“Below are 57 new ideas I took away from this little book. Many are direct quotes from the book itself.” [I’m going to spare us all the quotation marks for the 57 ideas.]
1. The different appearances of ELoHiYM, YaHuWShu’A and the RuWaCx HaQoDeSh that were used to help Mack break his religious conditioning.
2. You don’t get brownie points for doing something through obligation; only if you want to do what you’re doing.
3. Life takes a lot of time and a lot of relationship.
4. How free are we really? – family genetics, social influences, personal habits, advertising, propaganda & paradigms etc. Freedom is an incremental process that happens inside a relationship with YaHuWShu’A HaMaShiYaCx.
5. When all you can see is your pain, perhaps then you lose sight of YHWH.
6. Pain has a way of clipping our wings, so we can’t fly. After awhile we forget we were ever created to fly.
7. When YaHuWShu’A became a man he gave up his own ability to heal people and do miracles. His miracles were accomplished by the trust of YaHuWShu’A (a man, a dependent limited human being) in His Father YHWH. We are all designed to live like that, out of YHWH’s life and power.
8. YHWH exists in three persons so we, His creation, can also live in love and relationship, just like YHWH does. If YHWH didn’t, we couldn’t. “YHWH cannot act apart from love.”
9. Relationships are never about power, and one way to avoid wanting power is to limit oneself – to serve.
10. Sin is its own punishment, devouring from the inside. It’s not YHWH’s purpose to punish it; it’s YHWH’s joy to cure it.
11. When people choose independence over relationship, we become a danger to each other.
12. If people learned to regard each other’s concerns as significant as their own, there would be no need for hierarchy. YHWH does not relate inside a hierarchy; YHWH wants us to trust him because He will never use or hurt us.
13. When Christians don’t trust YHWH it’s because they don’t know they are loved by him. They think YHWH is not good.
14. Mack [one of the characters] says: “I just can’t imagine any final outcome that would justify all this (pain, suffering etc).” Papa [another character] replies: “We’re not justifying it. We are redeeming it.”
15. The choice of YHWH to hide so many wonders from man is an act of love that is a gift inside the process of life.
16. For any created being, autonomy is lunacy.
17. When something happens to us, how do we determine whether it is good or bad? By whether we like it or if it causes us pain. This is self-serving and self-centered.
18. We become the judge of good and evil; so when each person’s good and evil clashes with someone else’s, fights, even wars, break out. [That’s what I saw happen on Facebook.]
19. Eating of the tree tore the universe apart, divorcing the spiritual from the physical. All of us died, expelling the very breath of YHWH.
20. We play ELoHiYM in our independence. The only remedy is to give up the right to decide good and evil and choose to live in YHWH and trust and rest in his goodness.
21. YHWH is light and YHWH is good. Removing ourselves from YHWH will plunge us into darkness. Declaring independence will result in evil because apart from YHWH, you can only draw on yourself. That is death, because you have separated yourself from YHWH, from Life.
22. This concept is difficult for us because the good may be the presence of cancer or the loss of income, or even a life. Sarayu [another character] answers: “Don’t you think we care about these people who suffer too? Each of them is the centre of another story that is untold.”
23. About having ‘rights’: “‘Rights’ are where survivors go so they won’t have to work out relationships.”
24. YaHuWShu’A gave up his rights so his dependent life would open a door that would allow us to live free enough to give up our rights.
25. Each of us is wild, beautiful, and perfectly in process when YHWH is working with a purpose in our hearts. We are an emerging, growing, and [an] alive pattern – a living fractal.
26. We tend to live either in the past or the future; dwelling on the pain and the regret of the past, instead of a quick visit to learn something from it. Or fearing the future, letting our imagination run wild with worry, and forgetting to see the future with YaHuWShu’A. This happens when: a. we don’t really know we’re loved and b. we don’t believe that YHWH is good.
27. Apart from YaHuWShu’A’s life, we cannot submit one to another. YaHuWShu’A’s life is not an example to be copied. YaHuWShu’A came to live his life in us; so we will see with YHWH’s eyes, hear with His ears, love with His heart, and touch with His hands.
28. Some say love grows, but it is the knowing that grows and love simply expands to contain it. Love is the skin of knowing.
29. We human beings are constantly judging others because we are self-centred.
30. We say: “Predators deserve judgment, their parents, too, for twisting them, and their parents, and on and on, until finally we go right back to Adam, and then, why not judge ELoHiYM? He started it all…isn’t ELoHiYM to blame for our losses? He could have not created, or he could have stopped the killer, but he didn’t.” If we can judge ELoHiYM so easily then, of course, we can judge the world. We must then (e.g.) choose two of our five children to go to heaven and three to go to hell, because that’s what we believe ELoHiYM does. Mack could not choose any one of his children because he loved them no matter what they did. So instead, he begged that he could go to hell for his children. This response is exactly what YaHuWShu’A did. Mack judged well. He judged his children worthy of love, even if it cost him everything. This is how YaHuWShu’A loves. ‘And now we know Papa’s heart.”
31. YHWH’s love is so much larger than our sin could ever be.
32. Evil was never a plan of YHWH’s. We must return from our independence, give up being His judge, and know YHWH for who he is.
33. When we receive YHWH’s love and stop judging Him we let go of the guilt and despair that had sucked the colours of life out of everything.
34. YHWH never abandons his children. We are never alone. YHWH could no more abandon us than he could abandon Himself.
35. “Live loved.”
36. When we leave the light of YHWH and retreat to the darkness all alone, the darkness makes our fears, lies, and regrets bigger in the dark. Sometimes, as a kid, doing this is part of survival, but now we must come to the light.
37. YaHuWShu’A will travel any road to find his children. But only one road leads back to heaven.
38. Stories about a person willing to exchange their life for another reveal our need and YHWH’s heart.
39. Even though YHWH can work incredible good out of unspeakable tragedies, it does not mean ELoHiYM caused it. Where there is suffering, you will find favor in many facets and colours.
40. ‘Love’ bothers to keep trying to touch people and never gives up.
41. Sometimes we hide inside lies that justify who we are and what we do.
42. Ask for forgiveness and let the forgiveness heal you. Take the risk of honesty. Belief does not grow in the house of uncertainty.
43. Our transformation is a miracle greater than raising the dead.
44. All evil flows from independence.
45. YHWH’s purposes are always and only an expression of love. YHWH works life out of death, freedom out of brokenness, and light out of darkness.
46. Emotions are neither good nor bad. They are the colours of the soul. They are spectacular and incredible.
47. The more you live in the truth, the more our emotions will help you see clearly.
48. Trying to keep the law is actually a declaration of independence, a way of keeping control. Keeping the law grants us the power to judge others and feel superior. [THIS ONE I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH. WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP YHWH’S COMMANDMENTS. IN FACT THE RESTORED COVENANT IS THAT HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE WRITTEN ON OUR HEARTS, WHERE WE CAN DO NOTHING BUT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS, IF WE ARE TRUE TO YHWH AND TO OURSELVES…. this reminds me of another question I saw on Facebook today: “Why do I have to REPENT if ‘G-D’’s love is unconditional?”]
49. Responsibility and expectation are dead nouns, full of judgment, guilt, and shame. Our identity becomes wrapped up in performance. The opposite is when YHWH gives us an ability to respond that is free to love and serve in every situation, with YHWH in us; and expectancy is alive and dynamic with no concrete expectation – only the gift of being together. [YHWH’s word says something far different about those who choose to live outside of a relationship that is based on love = obedience.]
50. To the degree we live with expectations and responsibilities is the degree we fear and the degree we don’t trust or know YHWH. [YHWH is not bound to bless us unless we partake in the everlasting covenant with Him.]
51. If YHWH is the centre of everything, then together we can live through everything that happens to us.
52. Forgiveness is big. [This is true. However, if there is no responsibility and no standard by which expectation can be made, there would be nothing to forgive. There would be no such thing as sin, which of course, is also not what the Word of YHWH says. This premise, which is huge and true, is in contrast with other selfish and self-serving things this nonbeliever has said.]
53. When bad things happen, what YHWH had to offer us in response is His love, goodness, and relationship with us. [However, this does not take what the Word says about the blessings His children would receive for obedience, and the curse they would receive for disobedience (see Lev. 26 and Deut. 28).]
54. ELoHiYM doesn’t do humiliation, guilt, or condemnation. They don’t produce one speck of wholeness or righteousness. [This goes against the scriptures that say Humble yourself and He will lift you up. There are many scriptures on humility and on meekness. There are too many stories on plagues that went out to destroy the people for despising YHWH and for choosing what was on their heart over serving YaHuWaH.]
55. Forgiving isn’t about forgetting; it’s about letting go of another person’s throat.
56. Forgiveness does not create a relationship; it simply removes them from your judgment [from you becoming their judge].
57. Because you are important to YHWH, everything you do is important.
Non-believer’s summary: “ I gotta tell you, this book [The Shack] made me want to explore the idea of God a little more, and I just can’t see how that is a bad thing.”
[Does this mean that because he read The Shack, he can now accept the truth? Or only that now that he has read The Shack, he has decided he will look further into more information from some source and will accept what will fit into his paradigm, as long as he does not have to change?]
[From what source does he get his definition of love? From his mother and father? If so, where did they get it? And, does his definition have to be the definition on which everyone else agrees? Or will he not find love?
[Or does his definition come from The Shack? And if so, does that mean he can only share love with he same people who also read The Shack, and have decided to hold onto the same definition?]
[Or does his definition come from Websters’s Dictionary? Or from his Psychology Professor at college? Or from his last girlfriend? Or is it self-defined (putting us back on the subject of self-absorption or selfishness, the opposite of love?]
[Or does it come from the Scriptures? How does one justify any definition of love unless it comes from the Scriptures?]
[Perhaps the Father has not chosen him to know and to receive the truth? YaHuWShu’A said, “My sheep hear My voice,” and “If the Father does not call you, you cannot come.”]
[Or, perhaps He has, and Aram, who read The Shack, will accept the call from YHWH to have a closer look.]
[It IS annoying when the nonbeliever who reads The Shack seems to be the more loving and kind between himself and the christian who does or does not choose to read The Shack, but fights with other christians whose beliefs differ from their own.]
[Why does a nonbeliever have to read the book, The Shack, or go to the movie, The Shack, in order to receive truth? Why does a nonbeliever not go to the scriptures to learn the truth? Is there something in the translation that causes them to avoid reading the Scriptures?]
[Please know and remember that a lie cannot stand on its own. It must be swallowed down with a bite of the truth that is eaten.]
[There’s more going on here, besides just a book. There’s a lot more going on. For instance:
churches are having study groups on the contents in The Shack…… Why aren’t churches studying the Word of ELoHiYM?????
There’s The Shack, Reflections, a 365-day devotional with meaningful quotes from The Shack…. Why aren’t people taking their daily devotional from the Word of YHWH?  Why haven’t people sought out the restored name scriptures, and spend their devotion time reading and studying the restorations of the Father YaHuWaH ELoHiYM? Please don’t go to church to study a novel for lessons in life, or go there to watch a movie from the book.
There’s the public relations and advertising of the translator of The Message saying The Shack has the potential for this generation that Pilgrim’s Progress did for John Bunyan’s generation. So, even a translator of the scriptures is suggesting this book is so worth your time.  Let me just say, time is short. Please study your scriptures. Please go back to the root of the scriptures and the original language. We are to study to show ourselves approved. And, we should be doing that daily. And, from a a restored name translation. Please read from a restored name translation: .  Please purchase a restored name scriptures.

From John 6:

43Then יהושע answered and said to them, “Do not grumble with one another.

44“No one is able to come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him. And I shall raise him up in the last day.

45“It has been written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by יהוה.’ Everyone, then, who has heard from the Father, and learned, comes to Me.

46“Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from Elohim – He has seen the Father.

47“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me possesses everlasting life.

48“I am the bread of life.

49“Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness and they died.

50“This is the bread which comes down out of the heaven, so that anyone might eat of it, and not die.

51“I am the living bread which came down out of the heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he shall live forever. And indeed, the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

1 Peter 1:

17And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, pass the time of your sojourning in fear,

18knowing that you were redeemed from your futile way of life inherited from your fathers, not with what is corruptible, silver or gold,

19but with the precious blood of Messiah, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless,

20foreknown, indeed, before the foundation of the world, but manifested in these last times for your sakes,

21who through Him believe in Elohim who raised Him from the dead and gave Him esteem, so that your belief and expectation are in Elohim.

22Now that you have cleansed your lives in obeying the truth through the Spirit to unfeigned brotherly love, love one another fervently with a clean heart,

23having been born again – not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible – through the living Word of Elohim, which remains forever,

24because “All flesh is as grass, and all the esteem of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls away,

25but the Word of Elohim remains forever.” And this is the Word, announced as Good News to you.

One Comment

  • Diana Junge says:

    We are told not to do as the heathans do in their land. This is not the Gospel that was taught, the Shack contains a very subtle danger, especially to Christian’s themselves, and the enemy has had to get pretty subtle, and of course, those things make us “feel” good (otherwise it wouldn not be called temptation), like Yoga, or meditation, or a Rosary-but no matter which actress you choose, or how beautifully you put it, these are doctrines of demons, especially to those who love to have their ears tickled. It seems like a good book for the atheist, to inteoduce them to the LOVE of Yahuwah, but dangerous otherwise.

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